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    Official Sonic The Hedgehog Trailer

    This is going to be a flusterclubk, isn't it...



    I'll just leave this here. As a furry, I must post about it, but dear Sylph this is bad.
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    Is this Sonic as imagined by Michael Bay? There's an awful lot of explosions.
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    • #3

      Not Michael Bay, thankfully, but this doesn't look much better.

      Sonic the Hedgehog (2020) - IMDb

      I don't think this will go well. I wish it would, a good video game based movie would be nice.
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      • #4

        The trailer said "By the directors of Fast and Furious" and I couldn't help but also feel that "being able to do car-porn and action shots of gearsticks" does not equate to "fast hedgehog skills"

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        • #5

          I haven't watched the trailer, but those images of Sonic, he looks like he was made from different parts taken from realities that have absolutely no business of ever knowing each other.

          Also if there are live action tweens/teens in it I fear this is going to end up like the "Transformers" films, which should really be called "Humans".

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          • #6

            Heh, the only thing more horrifying than the images they showed are the images in this trailer in motion. You're probably better off not watching it, but I had to share it. I just had to.
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            • #7

              Yeah, I've never been much into Sonic, but damn... this looks bad!

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              • #8

                So they said they're going to redesign Sonic's character between now and the movie's release. So now a bunch of people are going to have to work overtime to fix the mistake they shouldn't have made in the first place. Even if they change the design, though, I'm not sure it'll help.
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                • #9

                  Hah, I'd heard a theory that this was always their plan - that they purposely made Sonic look terrible for the publicity and had already made a more proportioned version to release afterwards. Not sure I buy that, though. This feels like a major miscalculation rather than a marketting masterpiece.

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                  • #10

                    Originally posted by SliceOfDog View Post
                    Hah, I'd heard a theory that this was always their plan - that they purposely made Sonic look terrible for the publicity and had already made a more proportioned version to release afterwards. Not sure I buy that, though. This feels like a major miscalculation rather than a marketting masterpiece.
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                    • #11

                      Originally posted by Rusakov View Post
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                      Very, very true.
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                      • #12

                        You know you've messed up when Stephen Colbert mentions your mistake.

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                        • #13

                          Originally posted by macrorufus View Post
                          Is this Sonic as imagined by Michael Bay? There's an awful lot of explosions.
                          Thankfully no. Look what his company did to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

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                            Originally posted by SliceOfDog View Post
                            Hah, I'd heard a theory that this was always their plan - that they purposely made Sonic look terrible for the publicity and had already made a more proportioned version to release afterwards. Not sure I buy that, though. This feels like a major miscalculation rather than a marketting masterpiece.
                            It must've backfired big time since the film release has been pushed back in order for the Sonic model to be reworked. Honestly though, I'm not sure what the big deal is about the design. Other than the teeth, it kinda makes sense if they have Sonic in the real world. He's a runner, runners have muscular legs. Big feet, as I understand it, are a hinder when it comes to running. And then there's the eyes. I like his eyes better in separate eye sockets rather than sharing one.

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                            • #15

                              The big thing is, there was a huge fan backlash. I don't know what the complaints were about specifically, only that most people who saw the trailer, hated how they had Sonic looking. Some even characterized the way he looked as something that should be in a kids' horror movie.

                              But I'm like you, Cain. I don't really see the big deal. In my view, for one, Sonic the Hedgehog was a low-res 2D sprite in a side-scrolling video game. It is only the game's cover art which gave him any real semblance to what he might look like if he was a real cartoon. But then extrapolate that to what he might look like in real life. Ask me, that would open how the character looked to a lot of artist extrapolation.

                              But in the end, as it turns out, most fans have in their minds how the character should look. So the studio would be taking a huge risk releasing the movie under such a wave of peremptory disapproval already on the move. Probably more like knowingly shooting itself in the foot. So I suppose one has to give the studio credit for making the intelligent decision.

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                              • #16

                                Yeah, it's just too different from that classic image, which is what's so ingrained into the fans' minds as Sonic.

                                And given all of the nostalgia elements, that's just jarring.
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                                  Originally posted by Rick Canaan View Post
                                  But I'm like you, Cain. I don't really see the big deal. In my view, for one, Sonic the Hedgehog was a low-res 2D sprite in a side-scrolling video game. It is only the game's cover art which gave him any real semblance to what he might look like if he was a real cartoon. But then extrapolate that to what he might look like in real life. Ask me, that would open how the character looked to a lot of artist extrapolation.

                                  But in the end, as it turns out, most fans have in their minds how the character should look. So the studio would be taking a huge risk releasing the movie under such a wave of peremptory disapproval already on the move. Probably more like knowingly shooting itself in the foot. So I suppose one has to give the studio credit for making the intelligent decision.

                                  Give fans what they want. That has been proven over and over again as the best way to make money in the entertainment industry. The opposite, which is to ignore what fans want, has been proven equally devastating to the industry.
                                  The problem boils down to the fact that there is a wealth of well-established material to draw from to make a Sonic model look good. From the concept art to the saturday morning cartoons to the CG stuff done in the more recent games. Instead of following that and expanding on it, they hought this was a good idea.

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                                  Why does he have human hands? Why are his eyes dead? How is it that an alien that just showed up on earth is wearing Nikes?

                                  This should have been an easy adaptation, but instead they went and based their style on the bear from Ted. They made more work for themselves, and the result is an anthro that looks more like a bad fursuit.

                                  Give the fans what they want. You're absolutely right, that's the key. Hopefully they manage to make a great looking model. The movie is still going to be rubbish, but at least kids won't be traumatized by Sonic.
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                                  • #18

                                    Also there was the uncanny valley effect going on. Trying to meld cartoon and live action styles is often difficult because they're two completely different mediums. It takes a lot of expertise, time and effort to mesh them well.

                                    Of course this is Paramount, so naturally they skimped out on that. Here's some context via another forum I'm on (a little outdated though since they were written before the exec shakeup):

                                    It seems insane to me that the studio that owns the rights to Star Trek, Ninja Turtles, and Transformers could be having money trouble. I mean just having Trek should be netting them a lot of money. Though I suppose they haven't been fully exploiting the property, for better or worse.
                                    Still, both franchises had the previous movie go dark, then the next one light. I suspect what happened was Into Darkness/TMNT reduced the positivity crowd, then the sequels didn't draw them back while losing some of the dark crowd. I'll admit to not seeing Beyond because I was pretty done due to Into Darkness, for an anecdote.

                                    Like, it wouldn't occur to me to take kids to a Paramount movie of any of these franchises.
                                    Paramount have tons of valuable property in their hands. The problem is their execs are %$#ing idiots that will gleefully sabotage their company in order to get their children famous.

                                    Avatar (The Last Airbender film) bombed, with the main reason for white-washing is due to one studio execs wanting his daughter to play an Inuit-looking character. That daughter proceeds to act in Transformers despite showing no real talent for acting. The company has spent years destroying the value of their intellectual property because they think the audience is stupid enough to buy into Transformer-level quality for every of their movies.
                                    So that's the studio that's making Sonic. The design backtrack is a good (well... better) sign, but be wary!

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                                    • #19

                                      Originally posted by Rick Canaan View Post
                                      The big thing is, there was a huge fan backlash. I don't know what the complaints were about specifically, only that most people who saw the trailer, hated how they had Sonic looking. Some even characterized the way he looked as something that should be in a kids' horror movie.
                                      As I understand it, the people complaining are complaining that Sonic doesn't look exactly like the way he looks in the video games. EXACTLY like the video games. The Big hands and Feet, the skinny arms and legs and the big buggy eyes. Which I don't think translates very well in a real world enviroment. Even in that fan film that came out a few years back Sonic still looked like a video game character.
                                      Originally posted by Daryn View Post

                                      Why does he have human hands? Why are his eyes dead? How is it that an alien that just showed up on earth is wearing Nikes?

                                      This should have been an easy adaptation, but instead they went and based their style on the bear from Ted. They made more work for themselves, and the result is an anthro that looks more like a bad fursuit.
                                      Well he does have four fingers and an apposing thumb, so why wouldn't they look human? The Nikes don't make sense to me either but I just assumed he found them somewhere on Earth when he arrived. How human made sneakers can stand up to those speeds is another question.
                                      Originally posted by Daryn View Post
                                      Give the fans what they want. You're absolutely right, that's the key. Hopefully they manage to make a great looking model. The movie is still going to be rubbish, but at least kids won't be traumatized by Sonic.
                                      For myself I think the only thing this movie has going for it is Jim Carry. And that's probably the only reason I'll go to see this movie.

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                                        Originally posted by Cain View Post
                                        Well he does have four fingers and an apposing thumb, so why wouldn't they look human? The Nikes don't make sense to me either but I just assumed he found them somewhere on Earth when he arrived. How human made sneakers can stand up to those speeds is another question.
                                        They just look off to me. I just can't place it, but those hands just don't seem to fit with the rest of it. I don't think they need to stick to the video game's aesthetics, but I do think this wasn't a great look. Yet, there are some things I like. I like the fur texture. I like the nod to the original spiky hairdo. So it isn't all bad. It just needs refining.

                                        Originally posted by Cain View Post
                                        For myself I think the only thing this movie has going for it is Jim Carry. And that's probably the only reason I'll go to see this movie.
                                        He might be the only saving grace to this movie. Though, if I'm honest, this movie can't possibly be worse than Super Mario Bros. At least this actually does resemble the story concept.

                                        Oh, and by the way, welcome to the forums, Cain. It's great to have a new face on board!

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